Why do “men” think they can have an opinion over a woman’s body?

Updated on October 16, 2021 in Battle of the Sexes
34 on June 1, 2019

When it comes down to abortions a lot of men feel they have the power to tell a woman what to do or how to feel when a making a decision. What authority do you feel?

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4 on June 6, 2019

BECAUSE IT DOESNT ONLY TAKE A WOMAN TO MAKE A CHILD AND THE FATHER MIGHT WANT THE CHILD SO PLEASE EVERY MAN HAS A RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THEIR CHILDS FUTURE OR IN YOUR FUCKED UP MIND DEATH

on June 21, 2019

You’re correct about it taking both a man and woman to create a fetus.  Congratulations.  However, the fetus does not grow in male bodies.  Fetuses do not have bodily autonomy, but women do.  If you are going to protest abortions because it is also the male’s child, how about you protest and yell at all of the men who walk out on women when they are pregnant.  If you want abortion to be illegal, it should be illegal to walk away from a pregnancy.  Most men who walk out on pregnancies and are issued court orders to provide child support don’t even provide the amount they should.  How about you argue about that rather than about how the man also created the fetus.  If you want to make abortion illegal then you have to make every bad thing that men do to their pregnant baby mamas and babies illegal as well (walking out, not paying child support, etc.).  

on July 7, 2019

yes it does take both a man and a women to make a baby but the women have to carry the babies for 9 months. the women have to go through all of these changes in their body not the men. i understand you think men should be able to have an opinion but i strongly disagree. Until a man can say he has gone through pregnancy and labor then i feel they have an opinion on what a woman does with HER body

on November 25, 2020

We are here to debate not argue. Be polite please

on October 10, 2021

@IComeToDebateNotArgue I like that we have people like you on here. Please add your input despite the toxicity, I love to see measured responses to toxicity.

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0 on January 29, 2020

When it comes to abortions, I see if the father wants to have some kind of say in that, and I actually think thats pretty fair since it takes a man and a woman to create a child. However, the final decision should be given to the person who will be throwing up, and gaining weight for 9 months then pushing a baby out of their vagina. When it doesnt come to abortions, men truly feel like they have an authority over everything because thats the stigma that has been around for decades, and some still don’t realize that women are not below them.

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5 on January 30, 2020

Yes, when it comes to abortion the guy should definitely have a say. If he wants the baby and y’all were having unprotected sex and everything is medically sound. You should be having his child. Let him have full custody. Women of today try to change reality. Dont fufill the equation for a baby if you dont want one you sluts. Keep it in ya pants, Simple.

on June 30, 2020

When the it comes to abortion the guy shouldn’t have as much of a say, the physical stress and risks of being pregnant are being taken by the women. Again women aren’t a fucking vessel for you to grow your child in just cause you want one. It isn’t a teddy bear in a store that you just grab and play with, it’s child that needs care and time. Why don’t men stop being whores? Fucking around and then leaving after hearing that the girl is pregnant. Providing no support at all, practically forcing the girl to take an abortion cause she cant support the child on her own.

on October 17, 2020

Again for both of you idiots if you weren’t so closed minded you can realize common sense. I’m going to leave it at this. There is a meme but it’s true and should be a quote. “Woman fuck who they want but men fuck who they can. Men marry who they want and woman marry who they can’t.”

on December 29, 2020

@Givemethetruth id be much more on your side if your argument didn’t have anti-woman aspects backed up by your anti-woman “whores” comment. I’d also add some sort of legal prescription like the ability to sue for a full carrying and then legal custody of the child. I’d also tie on that anyone suing for this option must adopt full responsibility for the child and all of its support without expectation of reciprocity, and the responsibility for all medical expense and economic impact upon the mother, even in the case of a failed pregnancy, up to birth and recovery.

@Ashley145 I don’t think you’re making a truly sound argument, but more of a female centric, emotional one. No, women aren’t simply baby makers, but also men aren’t just flippant man whores. If we had better ways of securing support from fathers your argument falls apart. I think if you consider a legal arrangement around conception you’d find a lot more room for the male’s choice in the matter. Also, your speech is laced with so much anti-male bias that its hard to take you seriously or in good faith.

@whysomad_hsksksnnsms Appeals to common sense are fallacious and therefore idiotic. You’re better than that. Ad hominem is fair play but not when founded on fallacy. Bad meme. Also your final quote doesn’t seem to respond to the actual arguments and just appeals to incel logic. Women do have much more power in choosing mates, but that doesn’t really matter past the point of baby making.

on March 26, 2021

Bangaalore I think your an absolute idiot. Your are the type of person to pick a fight with someone then tell the teacher so you don’t get your ass whooped.

on October 10, 2021

Nice alpha male bravado nerd. How about you engage your brain with what’s being said more than in reaffirming your lame ass presuppositions?

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2 on January 30, 2020

Why do women think they can have an opinion on a baby’s body

on June 30, 2020

Because it’s growing in their body and it will become their responsibility to care for when they don’t have any of the resources to raise a child.

on October 10, 2021

Ash, you’re getting baited. Is Acpool’s opinion even worth responding to? You can spend better time elsewhere.

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4 on March 2, 2020

Men can decide a child’s fate just as much as a woman. Even if a woman carries a child for 9 months it doesn’t make her more of a parent than the man who she has had that child with. If a woman doesn’t wish to have a child don’t go out fucking. Have some moral standards. Things could be so much more simple than people make it. Also, yes their are a majority of men in the government who get a say in these right’s for a woman but guess what ? it’s their job. if you were someone really passionate about this issue you would be trying to get into the same job position as these men and put your opinion on the board. Plus they aren’t just random men who want a power of you’re body, they are looking for the common good of society, they believe that teaching women that it’s okay to get pregnant and kill the miracle that in it’s self is the key to sustaining the human race is WRONG. Also another argument people could say is that the child could be born in bad conditions and could cause more harm on the child than if it was never born. Now again this is wrong. A child born in poverty isn’t any more worthless than a child born into a good society. Thousands of people who changed man kind and the fate of society were born in bad conditions but raised by the right people. To sum things up, know the consequences of actions. Have good intentions. And don’t ever go into any situation and think that death is the only option.

on June 30, 2020

Yes just cause women carry the baby doesn’t make them a better parent but women has to deal with the physical stress of carrying the child, risk factors and alot more. They aren’t some vessel to keep the child in then take it out when it grows just cause the father wants a kid. Get with your partner and talk about children, instead of demanding them from partners who don’t want one. Second instead of telling women not to be “sluts” let’s not forget it takes two genders to create a child, so how about men don’t go around fucking then leaving the moment the girl’s pregnant. Third you don’t need to get a fucking job in that field to put your opinion out onto the board, that’s what debaters, speakers, etc are for. I think you’re forgetting about the fact that some women get pregnant through rape and sexual offences, are these women not allowed to have an abortion? Not because it’s a rapist child but because they are too young, financially ill and mentally ill to take care of a child. Fourth yes not every child born into poverty becomes messed up, but that dosen’t mean that people who can barely support themselves should have children. It isn’t an acceptable environment to raise a child in, 60% of the time the parents don’t remain together and separate, leaving the child in more financial and mental issues to handle from a very early age. Fifth children raised by good parents in a financially ill environment do go on to persue alot in life but again how many of these good parents would you find, it isn’t as easy to raise a child as you are thinking it is. Just having good morals as a person doesn’t make you a guaranteed good parent.

on October 17, 2020

For both of you clowns @ongaddykush420 and @ahsley what if the parents were having protected sex with a condom and it broke. Or what if the women was raped. Also 60% of marriage fails because most people get married too early and think they have the one again too early. If people waited for the right one and didn’t feel pressured to be seriously involved in young or mid 20’s perhaps there could be less divorce. Many people feel if you don’t have a family or at least spouse at 28 years old something is wrong with you.which is wrong

on October 10, 2021

This reply is specifically to @Ognaddykush420. Sorry if you’re just trolling, but I’ll respond to the content.

First off, I’d question how many pregnancy scares you’ve had personally, and stemming from that how many partners you’ve had. You seem to be male, but also unaware of the FACT that males have much more final say in whether or not they cum inside someone and force them into an uncomfortable situation. Say neither of you want a baby, you’re still forcing a woman to take a plan B and destroy their body for a time to avoid the consequence of your own male irresponsibility.

Second, you’re giving a ton of incel vibes. Way to project desirable values onto what are much more often degenerate or terminally irresponsible men. They’re not nobly continuing the human race. They’re being assholes and inappropriately pushing the lines of consent. They’re not politely asking if they can ejaculate in the woman, more often they’re just doing it purposefully or accidentally.

Finally, its weird that you’ve taken the podium to shift from whether men should have a say to an outright anti-abortion argument regardless of gender. But ill focus on the question you’ve brought up for me. If we assume that many couples plan babies, we grant that they are sacrificing every egg and sperm that would create a baby earlier. Therefore, they are effectively doing the same thing as aborting the earlier baby. So, assuming that the couple may have induced an accidental pregnancy ahead of their plan, the baby produced ahead of the economic schedule will absolutely face a worse life and worsen the life of the parents. So your argument of all babies being equal is straight out invalid. Id rather that the couple abort the first baby and provide more overall value by having the second baby.

on October 10, 2021

Also to respond to Ash and WhySoMad, he’s right. Ash and Ong are making fools of themselves here. They have completely missed the core of this argument and talked past it to regurgitate their political narratives. Although I don’t love the way WhySoMad made his point, he made it in a succinct way that got to the heart of what was wrong with the two arguments he responded to.

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0 on March 11, 2020

I think it goes both ways if men get a say in what happens to a woman’s body then a woman get a say in what happens to a man’s bout right??? Yes we are fucking equal and should all be talking each other’s body’s not one or the others. That’s why the vasectomy law was passed

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0 on April 9, 2020

Why do people who dont own guns feel they have a right to take them away from others

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0 on September 14, 2020

i’m not considering what the woman has to go through. Its their fault they wanted unprotected sex (as well as the guy). But it takes 2 to make that. The principal from this side of things is good enough to say a guy gets to make a decision as well.

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1 on October 17, 2020

For most the people arguing that the woman has to go through 9 months let me clarify it up. So it takes 2 to make a fetus/human and the woman has to go through physical changes for 9 months. Then the woman is on bed rest and takes care of the child afterwards too most likely. Than the man has to work and pay for the bills and necessities of three human beings. If the man has to work and pay for the costs of the baby shouldn’t he have a say despite not going through 9 months.

on December 29, 2020

There’s a more fundamental (and imo better) argument to make here. We don’t even have to consider anything post-utero if we look through the lens of men being essentially persecuted for biological differences beyond their control. Not that men should be a “protected class” or anything, but specifically when responding to something like “you only have to nut, I have to carry” I think its a more direct answer. You’re basically saying I have no say because of my biology which is a terrible argument to make from a feminist perspective.

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6 on November 3, 2020

Reducing abortion to female body autonomy is pretty slimy because you’re basically using body autonomy to override parentage. Yes, the fetus is in the female body, but if a man either wants or doesn’t want the baby you’re basically denying him the option of contraception or fatherhood. It’s pretty messed up in either direction.

on November 28, 2020

So we agree.

on December 29, 2020

Yes? I’ve seen a couple of your comments and it seems like we agree on a few things. You seem like someone I’d enjoy arguing with (in good faith), so if you disagree with me on anything please go in on me. Thats why I post.

on December 31, 2020

Anytime anywhere you name it

on January 5, 2021

Thank you for being cool after realizing I don’t have it out for you. Very cool. Yeah just reply to anything you like with my name on it and I’d be happy to talk.

on March 26, 2021

Your stupid. You clearly have too much time on your hands and need to find a hobby or a job. Idk your personal life so I can’t say for sure but maybe use that stimulus check to buy a new brain.

on October 10, 2021

Lol the projection here is insane. Literally after saying you know nothing about me you project on me, nice. Maybe this is a hobby? Were back to that argument of is any hobby that you personally deem unimportant automatically worthless? Try harder.

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