Why shouldn’t they. They are apart of the journey of life too. Their not bearing a child or actually giving birth but they have to deal with the financial situation and sacrifice as much as the mother has to sacrifice
not all men are even there so no not all have to deal with the financial situation and they don’t have to go through the actual birth, the fear of dying from it, and the stress of being a mother. nobody should be forced to risk their life.. and nobody should force anybody to risk their life.
@whysomad_hsksksnnsms thats not a reply to what they’re saying. Its almost a pivot. Tying guns to abortion isn’t logically consistent.
@jmcfarland956 you have an interesting point on the fear of death in childbirth. I’ve wondered if some sort of contractual agreement could be formed around abortion, but now I’m thinking the woman could shut that down by saying “I might die” and thats interesting. Do you think that, assuming the man is under a full physical and financial responsibility contract, any woman should be able to do that universally? Or should they have to prove a reasonable fear of childbirth death in order to win the legal suit? Of course this is all hypothetical.
It’s an example. Maybe read a book before you start typing on here. To the other person @jmcfarland956 if we’re being totally honest how many people die from pregnancy let alone fear dying from pregnancy. Before you find some crazy stat to prove me wrong I shall let you know surveys and studies can be biased, wrong, or paid off.
This argument that men shouldn’t have a say in abortion laws is idiotic. The child is just as much the man’s as it is the woman’s. Why should men not have a say?
I agree with you (I think) but you really just responded to a question with a question. You should have an actual position by having an actual argument for it. I’m not saying you don’t, but you haven’t provided one.
You might stretch what you said about men creating the baby also IS an argument, but you could elaborate a lot.
To give you something to respond to I’ll adopt an argument I don’t necessarily agree with : Men play a minimal role in the reproductive process and even in relationships where both partners want to carry to term, they face much lower risks to their own livelihood, body autonomy and social ramifications. That is why they should not have any say in abortion laws. Abortion laws affect women much more than men. (Once again, I have an argument against this. I only provide this so you will elaborate on your position)
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