Feminists (good and bad) convince me that feminism is good

Updated on March 1, 2019 in Battle of the Sexes
17 on January 25, 2018

This thread is here to see if you feminists can try and convert me
I aint gonna lie there and let you convince me just like that though
this IS an arguing website
so imma use logic against you
come at me

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4 on February 5, 2018

I think feminism is good because it gives us something to fight for, we don’t get the right treatment we deserve.
Let’s say we are in the military and we have an important mission, who do you think is more likely to be assigned to it ? Us women or Men ?

on February 16, 2018

Men will be assigned because we are on average and naturally stronger, faster, more durable, and willing to take risks. When it comes to physically strenuous activities, men are biologically better equipped. We are biologically different and therefore can never be perfect equals. We are equal by other means. Men are the physical side and women are the emotional and birthing side. We need both to be balanced. Do not downgrade your importance just because you are not as physically adept as we are. We require you to balance out society. You play a very important role in humanity. Just as important as men. We only hold the majority of power due to our physical differences, but it is how our species is designed. We must be on the front line of danger because you take roughly nine months to form offspring, which leaves you nearly defenseless. You are the largest factor in creating life that keeps our species alive while we throw ourselves into danger to protect that. We need you to be what you naturally are and we be what we naturally are for our species to survive.

on March 4, 2018

glad you brought up the military because id choose men. men are just better fit for the military and have been since wars were first fought how many years ago. while we are on this topic, what do you think about the double standard in the military where women arent held to the same fitness expectations as men? a 2014 article says that the us marines are required to do 3 pull ups on their physical fitness test a unisex requirement but since more than 50% of women couldn’t complete it the deadline was extended for women only. that should prove men and women are equal but not the same.

on March 6, 2018

I’m currently enlisted in the U.S Army and i think men and women should be held to the same standard because why would i trust someone who hasn’t been brought to the same strength test as me to carry me out of a firefight. i don’t want to die just because someone wasn’t held to the same standards everyone else has.

on January 29, 2019

I like the argument that “theShuan” brought up. Basically men and wemen have will always be equal in terms of value as human beings but men and wemen will never be the same. You can’t expect a woman to do a mans work and you best know that a man cannot handle a woman’s work. Two different species that compliment each other and could not be more beautiful the way it naturally is. To fight for equality is to fight nothing, because we’re already equals, what modern feminism fights for is for men and wemen to be the same which is something terrible to fight for. That ideology can potentially destroy society.

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0 on March 6, 2018

I can’t  convince you feminism is good because it’s not. plain and simple

 

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0 on March 9, 2018

it isnt

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2 on April 9, 2018

Feminism is good because women don’t get equal pay and often find themselves feeling unsafe around men.

However misguided their efforts may seem to you, feminism is conceptually intended to remedy these issues. It’s okay to criticise the methods and ideology of any one person, but to let that tarnish your opinion on feminism is to say that the wage gap and gender inequality are not real problems.

 

on April 13, 2018

Women who work the same amount of hours in the exact same position as men DO make the same pay. The wage gap is due to women taking more time off work. Usually for family related reasons. And men feel unsafe around feminists because too many of them falsely claim harassment just because he doesn’t agree with her political point of view.

Oldschool feminism was intended to remedy gender issues. Modern feminism is all about boosting women up higher than men. Feminism has grown into an ugly thing over the decades.

on May 28, 2018

Earlier feminism,yeah sure, but modern feminism, some feminist take it way too far now these days, and it’s hard to have respect for it anymore, it really is, some of these “extreme feminist” are going around making men feel bad because they’re men, it’s ridiculous, and the wage gap, I hundred percent agree with “TheShaun”. You have to take in account the different hours worked on average in jobs by men and women, the different jobs men and women do, etc. All those factors make that wage gap irrelevant. The wage gap is just another lie created to make men feel bad, it’s very pitiful

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0 on June 11, 2018

I first want to say that feminism isn’t bad, the feminist are. Many feminist give people like me, a true feminist, a bad name. Feminism is the fight for equal rights between men and women, and I truly believe in this. The feminist that give other feminist a bad name, are the ones who can’t take a Hugh Mungus joke. Some people believe that feminism is a bad thing, but the truth is that they’ve just seen bad feminist. This is a real problem. Both men and women are oppressed and are treated as if they are a less dominant gender at times. That’s why everyone needs to put our differences aside, and just accept people as people.

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0 on January 8, 2019

It’s too general when we talk about feminism in America. There are many countries where women suffer. I live in Lebanon and we truly suffer. We have this tradition where women should clean the house, cook every meal, take care of her kids, serve guests alone…Where as the men would go to their work and come back home without being a part of all this (But after all it depends on the house and the people). We have laws that are very sexist honestly. This first law, that was put up a long time ago and was changed a year ago, is if a woman was raped then it’s her fault. The second law is if a man is beating a woman then it’s okay because he’s teaching her “manners”. I think that these laws are very very discriminating and unfair. I currently interviewed a woman who works in the media and she told me that even if she has the same job as a man in her department, she’s always paid less. It’s not only these cases, it’s also beauty pageants. Every contestant is very skinny and has a tanned body and all those things. Is that really the meaning of beauty? I find it very fat shaming. It’s like the new series of Debby Ryan “Insatiable” where she had to become skinnier just to feel beautiful. In my opinion feminism is a great mouvement in many countries especially in the Middle East.

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1 on January 8, 2019

Forgot to mention that when a woman is paid less means that she works less. Not at all.

on February 7, 2019

It is one of the factors.

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0 on January 16, 2019

the basis of feminism is good it’s the idea that the genders should be equal. but modern feminism twist this idea into “all men are horrible, and men are evil just by being men.” many white feminists also talk over the voices of poc and trans women when their input is valuable to understanding the struggles of not only gender but also race and identity and how all three of those go together

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0 on February 12, 2019

Feminism is fucked up.

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0 on March 1, 2019

Feminist now is not what it was back then. I can’t stand the way feminist now show themselves. Back then it was showing that women are strong, have a voice, equal pay, etc. Now its a bunch of ignorant children playing pretend. We are talking about a generation that eats tidpods and can’t take their eyes off of a phone. They paint on their clothes and don’t expect any attention, they then proceed to assault the male or female (only 2 genders) who touches them. is that not wrong? yes, males and females (only 2 genders) should not touch someone else’s body without consent but her throwing her body out there is wrong as well. Women now are trying to get the wrong attention and they are doing the most bizarre things to accomplish that. Also back then feminism was real equality it wasn’t i hate men and they are all bad. Why? because that isn’t equality. Feminism needs to go back to the old days. 

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